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Kxng Crooked reacts to Eminem’s Melle Mel diss

It appears Eminem has not forgotten about the comments the legendary emcee Melle Mel made about him earlier this year, addressing them in a firestorm of deadly bars on Ez Mil‘s new song, called “Realest.”

Few months ago, during an interview on The Art Of Dialogue, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five rapper responded to Billboard magazine’s list of Top 50 Greatest Rappers Of All Time which placed Eminem at number 4 by saying that the Detroit legend is considered in top 5 only because of his skin colors: BEING WHITE.

In the song “Realest,” Eminem responded with the bars that may be a cause of the start of one of the biggest feuds in hip-hop history. “Shout to the Furious Five and Grandmaster Flash but boy (What up doe) / There’s someone who really is furious stay out his path his wrath avoid / And I’ll be the last to toy with a juice head whose brain is like half destroyed / Like a meteor hit it well there went Melle Mel we lost his a– to roids (Damn).” Em raps.

Kxng Crooked looks confident that Melle Mel is in the booth right now, recording the response to Eminem: “I know Melle in the booth right now.. Ain’t no way he doesn’t respond.. What if he drops it on Hip Hop’s birthday 8/11?” He tweeted.

One of the fans responded: “Melle don’t want that smoke.” On which Crooked replied: “He made The Message man I think he wants all of it! One of the original emcees..”

Detroit rapper Lazarus asked: “What’s your take on that battle bro?” On that, Kxng responded: “I could be wrong but I ultimately think this is what Melle wanted and now the ball is in his court. If he drops a great record it would be dope for the culture in terms of pioneers continuing to shine in this day and age.”

Another fan commented: “Yes, but it’s never been this real, rapper’s who have fought Em on tracks have been discredited as MCs to a point where they have changed genres. Going against Em hasn’t worked for anyone so its not just career suicide but it’s an all out fight for your credibility as a musician.” On that, the West Coast legend replied: “There’s nothing Em can do to erase Melle Mel from the Hip Hop history books. Let’s keep things in perspective”

Lastly, Kxng Crooked tweeted: “If there was a such thing as Hip Hop Jeopardy and the category was Founders & Pioneers.. Em would get every answer right.. He luvs this s–t immensely.. I don’t think that was an easy recording session.”

Check out the tweets below:

Eminem takes shots at The Game, Melle Mel, Gen Z & Lord Jamar on “Realest”

Ez Mil has just released his debut single “Realest,” featuring Eminem under Shady Records and it’s already been discussed a lot on social media because of Slim Shady’s one of the sharpest lyrics as the Detroit legend is no stranger to controversy.

Eminem’s response to The Game

“And that is the only retort, is I’m not played in the clubs (What?) / Motherf–ker, put a cork in it / Only reason they still play your s–t in the club (Why?) / Is ’cause you still perform in ’em (Ha-ha).”

Eminem is talking about the claim that The Game made when he wanted to spark “beef” with Eminem. To quote what The Game said on the Matt & Stak’s SHOWTIME Basketball podcast: “When have you ever heard an Eminem song playing in the club?” Eminem reacts to this by implying that the only reasons that The Games music is played in clubs is because he performs in them, by clubs Eminem also means small venues because The Game is still a “small” artist therefore he can’t sell out big stadium arenas like Em.

Eminem’s response to Lord Jamar

“I am the guest in this house but I turn this b–ch to a mansion (What? Yeah) / That’s an expansion, made it / gargantuan (Huh, what?) / England, Germany, France and Japan’s in this b–ch (Huh, yeah) / Even Dubai, because my music, they do buy (What?).”

A response to Lord Jamar who said in an interview with Dj Vlad that Eminem is just a guest in hip hop. Em follows up “That’s an expansion, made it gargantuan” with a list of countries that a have a notable history of expansion/colonialism. But Eminem is also referring to the fact that he is an international artist with heavy acclaim and influence across the world. Also, pay attention to the homonym (Dubai – do buy).

Eminem’s response to Gen Z

“Gen Z is actin’ like rap experts, zip up your gaps and close your mouths (Yeah) / B–ch, you ain’t been on this planet long enough to tell me how rap’s supposed to sound (Nah) / Y’all need to stick to what you do best (What?), shootin’ schools up, gat’, go load up rounds / In your parents’ gats and go to class and let off with the strap and go to town (Uh-huh).”

In recent years, the new generation called Gen Z have tried to cancel Eminem for his homophobic and misogynistic lyrics many times, especially on TikTok when a user posted a clip that called for Em’s cancellation thanks to a violent lyric in his 2010 Rihanna collaboration ‘Love the Way You Lie’ (“If she ever tries to f–king leave again/ I’ma tie her/ To the bed and set this house on fire“).

The debate is ostensibly pitted Millennials against Gen Z, with the former group of older Eminem fans largely came to the rapper’s defense saying that the younger generation is decades late to being offended by an artist known for controversial statements.

Eminem’s response to Melle Mel

“Shout to the Furious Five and Grandmaster Flash, but, boy (Whaddup, though?) / This someone who really is furious, stay out his path, his wrath, avoid / And I’ll be the last to toy with, this juice-head, his brain is like half destroyed / Like a meteor hit it / Well, there went Melle Mel, we lost his a– to ‘roids (Damn).”

During an interview with The Art Of Dialogue, Melle Mel said: “Obviously, Eminem’s a capable rapper. If we talk about sales and he sold more than everybody, okay, if we talk about rhyme style, okay, he got a rhyme style. But he is white! He is white! If Eminem was just another ni–a like the rest of us, would he be top 5 on that list when a ni–a can rhyme just as good as him is 35?! They had records and all that.”

Physically, Melle Mel is in good shape and goes to a gym a lot. Eminem implies that too much steroids negatively affected to his brain for making such statements.

Listen to the song below:

New Song: Ez Mil – “Realest,” ft. Eminem

Ez Mil has released his first single under Shady Records, titled “Realest,” featuring Eminem, produced by Ez Mil and Slim Shady himself, off DU4LI7Y: REDUX (Deluxe) album.

In the song, Eminem finally responds to Melle Mel, who recently claimed that Eminem is considered top 5 rapper of all time only because he is white:

“Guess I’ve really no right to complain much (Nah)
Hip-hop has been good to me, huh? (Well)
But when they say that I’m only top five
‘Cause I’m white, why would I be stunned? (Huh)
My skin color still workin’ against me (What?)
‘Cause second I should be to none (Ha)
Being white ain’t why they put me at five (Nope)
It’s why they can’t put me at one (Woo)”

“Shout to the Furious Five and Grandmaster Flash, but, boy (Whaddup, though?)
This someone who really is furious, stay out his path, his wrath, avoid
And I’ll be the last to toy with, this juice-head, his brain is like half destroyed
Like a meteor hit it
Well, there went Melle Mel, we lost his a– to ‘roids (Damn)”

Ez Mil also references Eminem twice in his second verse.

“I done got hit on the head, barely survived that shit (Okay)
Minus a nine from ten, Eminem‘s spot still sits
But f-ck a position, I’m tunin’ him in
Let all you rock out with it, I ain’t ever gonna be an opt-out mission
Get the Glock out with it, get to poppin’, dip out and smoke
With the homies we mobbin’, while I’m cleanin’ the stash of my calibers
Some of them might got ya’ name on ’em
Wanna brag about shit that could happen
I am the reason that they got a chain on ’em
When I rap, they consider me a Gatling
Fillin’ up mags, I’m finna go clapping
Get in that bag with a gold B rabbit, I know they hate this flow”

You can listen to the song below (It’s only available in the selected countries yet).

Tony Yayo to Melle Mel: “Eminem would never be on the list if he was not f–king lyrical tyrant”

Tony Yayo has recently sat down with DJ VLAD where he briefly talked about Eminem and Benzino situation and shared his opinion on Melle Mel saying Eminem is on Billboard’s top rappers list just because he’s white.

“Eminem really never say nothing. Eminem is the type of ni–a that could watch you, he will make a diss record to destroy you and then just chill in the crib. Shout out to Eminem.” said Yayo.

Then he continues: “We were called House Ni–as for f–king with Eminem. The Source, they would take it to whole another level. That’s when the disrespect for me was like. Damn, what does color have to do with music. What does the color have to do with people. I don’t care what color or religion you are. We from New York, we grew up with all kinds of people. I don’t give a f–k what color you are. I don’t look at you as a culture vulture because you are white. That could be somebody else’s opinion. It’s not mine.”

“Melle Mel said something about Eminem. That’s his opinion. My thing is, Em and Fifty did more for me than anybody has ever done in my career. I’mma always shout out Eminem. Eminem would never be on no list if he was not f–king lyrical tyrant. If he was not f–king nice with it. No disrespect to Melle Mel, I know he’s a legend in the game but at the end of the day, Eminem is lyrical.” Tony Yayo added.

You can watch the interview below:

Maino shares his thoughts on Melle Mel’s comments about Eminem

Maino has recently sat down on Culture Shock for Episode 7 where New York-born rapper reacted on the music videos of Ice Spice, Casanova and others. He also shared his thoughts on Melle Mel’s comments about Eminem.

One of the hip-hop pioneers, Melle Mel of Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five, has recently done an interview with The Art Of Dialogue where he shared his thoughts about Eminem being in the Top 5 rappers of all time list by Billboard/Vibe magazine.

“Obviously, he’s a capable rapper. If we talk about sales and he sold more than everybody, okay, if we talk about rhyme style, okay, he got a rhyme style. But he is white! He is white! If Eminem was just another ni–a like the rest of us, would he be top 5 on that list when a ni–a can rhyme just as good as him is 35?! They had records and all that.” said Melle Mel.

Then he continues: “The point is, if I was white, ni–a, I’d be greater than Elvis. Ni–as be like, Melle Mel is greater than Elvis! Melle Mel is the greatest white man that ever lived. He’s the part of the culture that changed the whole world. That is great a– white man right there! But I’m not white, I’m one of the ni–as.”

Lots of hip-hop artists have disagreed Melle Mel’s take and Maino is the latest who shared his opinion: “Eminem definitely is nice! I don’t think anybody ever doubted that. I assume that when he was coming up and when he was a hungry artist dudes would be like ‘damn! this white boy nice!'” he said.

He then continues: “Em might not be in my top 10 but that does not take away from him being who he is. It does not take away from him of being nice! If he’s not in my top 10, it’s not because of that. I’ll put Tupac above a lot of people but it’s argued that Tupac was not the greatest rapper. No other artist was able to visualize though music the black man experience like he could. I don’t put him above Notorious BIG though.”

Kurupt says race doesn’t matter in Eminem being successful, brings Snoop Dogg as an example

Kurupt has recently sat down on The Art Of Dialogue where the hip-hop icon responded to Melle Mel saying Eminem would be just another rapper if he was black and he is in top 5 just because he’s white.

“Eminem was serving emcees. That’s an MC to me! He paid his dues, serving people in the cold, freezing… just chopping people’s heads off. Bodies can’t be found cause the snow’s too high off the ground. He got so many bodies throughout Detroit that’s never been seen. There ain’t no way to judge this man because his time decided to send him on a different journey when he came out professionally. Through that journey he showed us his skills on the mic. And its all in the name of hip-hop. So, that’s all that matters. It shows the diversity of hip-hop. We are one culture but we are all nationalities, we are all races, we are everywhere.” says Kurupt

Then he continues: “It’s people like Eminem that kept hip-hop alive. That’s just real. The diversity of it. He made whole different race and generation feel that they can do it too. And we got good ones, great ones from all race. I appreciate what Melle Mel has done. I respect his opinion but our generation, we don’t agree.”

“I know Eminem is great on the mic and people love him. And Snoop Dogg is black and he’s successful like Eminem. So I don’t know, if they like you, they like you, if they don’t like you they don’t like you. That’s why our generation really can’t agree because Snoop did it and he’s black, Eminem did it and he’s white. But everybody has their opinion.” he added.

You can watch the interview below:

Kurupt responds to Melle Mel comments about Eminem

Kurupt has recently sat down with The Art Of Dialogue where the legendary rapper responded to Melle Mel of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five saying Eminem is only considered a top 5 rapper of all time because he’s white.

“That’s his opinion. That’s not our opinion though. The way Dr. Dre took Eminem subject matter wise is one thing. The way Eminem rock, he’s a battle rapper and he is hip-hop no matter what color he is. Dr. Dre took him in this way so that has no bearing on his skill. His skill is renowned.” said Kurupt.

Then he continues: “That’s Melle Mel’s feel on it. Melle Mel is an icon of hip-hop. Melle Mel is speaking from his perspective, from hip-hop’s perspective. Billboard is speaking from Billboard’s perspective, which is a hit perspective. If you can make into the Billboard, you are successful. So that’s a successful list. There is no bearing of skill. Now, Melle Mel has his opinion but remember, he is hip-hop. The original hip-hop so Melle speaks from that standpoint.”

“For my generation, Eminem is our monster. His color is irrelevant. Melle Mel does have a point about Eminem being white, he might got away with lots of things, like, him talking about all these different artists. And not having the backlash to where he’s blackballed. But white has nothing to do with his skills. But yeah, he got away with lot of things, s–t, we got away with lots of things once we became successful. Once you are successful, you can do whatever the f–k you want and the game accepts it because they get money off of it. My generation, we really do not agree with Melle Mel. But hey, it’s good to agree or disagree, you know.” – Kurupt added.

You can watch the interview below:

Those who don’t know, Kurupt is one of the rappers Eminem shouted out on “Till I Collapse” with Nate Dogg from The Eminem Show album: “I got a list, here’s the order of my list that it’s in / It goes Reggie, Jay-Z, 2Pac and Biggie / Andre from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me.”

Ja Rule reacts to Melle Mel saying Ja copied 50 Cent

50 Cent and Ja Rule’s feud was probably one of Hip Hop’s most infamous beefs, and Melle Mel thinks things may have gone differently for Ja Rule if he did not copy Fiddy’s gangsta style.

In a recent interview with The Art of Dialogue, the legendary rapper from Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five shared his thoughts on why rappers trying to be “hard” is resulting in the destruction of the genre itself.

“A lot of rappers could be better rappers if they stopped rapping like everybody else. What is it that you need to say? You could be the ni–a that made a song about a pool party, but you f–ked around and listened to Meek Mill and went and you f–ked around and did some dumb s–t. It’s just like when 50 Cent was doing this s–t and then when Ja Rule and that was probably one of his last big records.” said Melle Mel.

Then he continued: “If he woulda just made that record a pure New York record, it would have been a way bigger record. But he went the route of trying to sound hard because 50 Cent sound hard. And it was still a good record but I’m just saying, if he woulda just made it a pure New York record like how JAY-Z did with his New York record. See what I’m saying? If he woulda went along the same lines as that. So the point I am saying is that consciousness does have its place in Hip-Hop, but everybody is too scared about not being hard. And that’s the destruction of the whole game.”

In a recently release footage from TMZ, Ja literally laughs out loud at Mel’s comments and says: “Mel has earned the right to say whatever he wants but me copying Fifty is the funniest s–t I’ve ever because Fifty copied me. I was his blueprint. Other than that, my New York record was huge. One of the biggest New York records to date. Empire State of Mind is also huge but they are different. Mine’s a street anthem and Empire State Of Mind is a big commercial record with Alicia Key and Jay-Z.”

You can watch the video below:

Shaquille O’Neal & Nischelle Turner react to Melle Mel’s comments about Eminem

On his latest episode of Big Podcast, Shaquille O’Neal addresses the burning issues in the world of sports and entertainment, along with his co-hosts Nischelle Turner and Spice Adams. During a new segment of the show, the NBA icon brought up a rather contentious topic, “Did you hear what Chaka Khan said about all those singers?”

The Big Aristotle was referring to singer Chaka Khan’s insulting comments at the expense of artists like legendary Mary J. Blige and Adele, among others. The lead vocalist of the funk band Rufus was ranked 29th on the list while Mary J. Blige was in the 25th position. The hosts of the podcast revealed that they were shocked by Khan’s comments. Turner said, “She [Khan] said Mary J Blige was flat singing her version of sweet love. She went in. She is apologizing now!”

“She went there, she went there,” Shaq exclaimed. Without directly making any comment, Shaq brought up legendary rapper Melle Mel’s comments on Eminem: “Did you hear what Melle Mel said about Eminem? [He] said Eminem’s only a top 5 rapper because he’s white.” Shaq ironically smiled and with that statement he implied that Khan’s comments were clearly prompted from a place of envy, rather than being any kind of constructive criticism. Nischelle Turner was quick to reply: “Oh stop! He’s got flow! Eminem’s got the flow, don’t do that to him.”

The crew later talked about GloRilla’s concert in New York where two people die after crowd crush. Shaq drew parallel to Dr. Dre’s Up In Smoke tour: “I’ve seen crowds with half million people. How you gonna prevent that? I remember going to the Up In Smoke tour, I came from the backstage and when I looked up had to be 500 thousand people. And when Eminem came out and Snoop came out, the crowd goes crazy, everybody’s jamming I don’t know how you prevent that.”

You can watch the segment below:

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B-Real & Psycho Les defend Eminem following Melle Mel comments

Legendary hip-hop group Cypress Hill’s B-Real and The Beatnuts’ Psycho Les have recently talked about Melle Mel’s comments about Eminem on B-Real’s The Dr. Greenthumb Show podcast. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five recently talked about Slim Shady’s place in top 5 greatest rappers of all time list and said that Marshall Mathers is in top 5 just because he’s a white rapper.

“Eminem was handpicked by Dre, yes, but Dre did not necessarily make him. He had to make himself. Much like Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar got recognized by Dre but if you look at what Kendrick has done, he has built himself. That’s what Eminem did. And here is a thing I wanna say as an emcee. There is no way you can not give him his props. Because it does not matter what color this dude is, he’s spit out some of the hardest bars and verses and style-flips and conceptual songs that anybody has ever heard.” said B-Real

Then he continues: “So for me, in my opinion, he’s one of the GOATs and he has earned all that respect. To me color is not an issue. He was the best to ever do it. One of the best to ever do it. Is he the best? Again, it’s subjective. Other folks think Jay-Z, other folks think Lil Wayne, other folks think it’s Biggie, other folks think its Pac, other folks think KRS-1. It’s all subjective but to say Eminem does not deserve this props, well, that’s your opinion. It may not be good one but it’s yours and that’s fine. In my list, Eminem is one of the best and he deserves all those props. When they ask me who’s your top 5 emcees, the top meaningful to me as emcees, are Em, KRS and Jay-Z. This is my top 3. It’s just my opinion and you might not agree. Em earned all his respect.”

“Eminem came from battle rap world. So he gotta be on fire. And he was. He was known for eating people up in a battle world. He also knew how to write a song, a catchy song, an anthem song. So, he not necessarily mastered the best of both worlds, but he is tapped in to both worlds in a way no one else is. And that is something very hard to do. It’s very rare when emcees do this. How do you not give this dude his due. And on top of that, he sold millions. I think he’s a number one selling artist in hip-hop. How can you not give him his dues. He still sells. he got fans. He got hard core fans. I know that Eminem would take Melle Mel out in this time because he has been doing that. When he does features, he’s going after the head of whoever he’s doing features with. And if you don’t hear that my dude, there’s more than that. Eminem is just different beast.”

“If I was to get a call and Eminem says I want to do a song with you, I already know he’s going to try to take my head off. Friendly-style cause we are competitive and we are friends and we got love for each other but I know he’s gonna flex a verse to make me work. That song with him and Busta, s–t’s crazy. You know the first guy to put me on to Eminem was Busta Rhymes. We were on tour and we was like ‘hey man you heard this kid Slim Shady? he has got crazy bars!’ And he starts repeating like first four bars of My Name Is.”

“Em was always cool with us. He was always giving up props. He shouted us out on many different songs. Sometimes I could not understand. My dude just gives us so much love that he does not have to. That’s something that I respect and appreciate. When he got nominated into the Hall Of Fame he shouted out all those groups and he threw us in there as well. He constantly chills us up. He’s a person that does not have to. That’s what’s so dope about him. He recognizes what fed him. What inspired him. And he told Hall Of Fame board that ‘hey you all have to recognize these folks cause they made me.’ And that’s big because the guys in his position don’t have to do it. They just walk in there and thank fans, family, agents and f–k off. But he did not. He’s a student of the game. He respects the artists that came before him.” – B-real added.

After that, B-Real and Psycho Les talk working and touring with Eminem. You can watch the entire interview below:

D12’s Swifty McVay taunts Melle Mel to diss Eminem

Swifty McVay of D12 is a recent rapper to weigh in on Melle Mel’s statement about the reason of Eminem being in the top 5 rappers of all time is because he is white.

In a recent interview with The Art Of Dialogue, Melle Mel of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five shared his opinion about Eminem being in the Top 5 rappers of all time list by Billboard and Vibe magazines: “Obviously, he’s a capable rapper. If we talk about sales and he sold more than everybody, okay, if we talk about rhyme style, okay, he got a rhyme style. But he is white! He is white! If Eminem was just another ni–a like the rest of us, would he be top 5 on that list when a ni–a can rhyme just as good as him is 35?! They had records and all that.”

50 Cent, Fat Joe, Papoose, Kxng Crooked, Kevin Gates, O’shea Jackson and Page Kennedy have all come together to defend Eminem against Melle Mel’s comments. To respond the backlash, Melle Mel recorded 8 minutes video from the guy where he defends his statement:

Melle Mel recorded a video from the gym where he says: “I said, Eminem is only number five on the list because he was white. I guess that started the uproar. Everybody is just so angry that I would say that. I’ve been branded a racist but that’s impossible, I’ve been playing with all the different kind of people in my life. Eminem made record, I guess it is called “White America,” where he said that he would be less popular if he was not white. So now we basically said the same thing. This is what Eminem says (plays White America where Eminem raps “Let’s do the math, if I was black, I woulda sold half I ain’t have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that”) He also has another record “Till I Collapse” where he named five or six individuals that he put himself behind these five or six individuals. And I have said that he would not be in the top 5 other than the fact that he was white. He said that.”

Back in 2021, in an interview with VLAD TV, Melle Mel said he would easily beat Eminem in a rap battle: “I would easily beat Eminem in a battle. It would be the easiest thing I ever did. Easy. Technically he is a great rapper but I’m the greatest. I know how to write it. When I put it down it’s gonna stay down. It would be the easiest thing that I ever did. And when people bring that up, just say ‘you can’t beat Eminem’. I’ve been doing this all my life. I don’t even write how I used to write but still, easy. Rap is my destiny. Everybody that’s out there rapping, they all trying to do something that I did 40 years ago.”

Now Swifty McVay is ironically asking the hip-hop pioneer to actually go in a rap battle with Eminem and prove his point. “You got an opinion OG and you are an architect of this, but if you so competitive do a diss track for the culture and lets see how that works out for you [laughing emjis]. Just saying.” – McVay commented under one of the Instagram posts.

Ice Cube’s son O’Shea Jackson Jr. defends Eminem following Melle Mel comments

One of the most iconic figures in hip-hop, Melle Mel of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five has recently done an interview with The Art Of Dialogue where the hip-hop pioneer shared his thoughts about Eminem being in the Top 5 rappers of all time list by Billboard/Vibe magazine.

“Obviously, he’s a capable rapper. If we talk about sales and he sold more than everybody, okay, if we talk about rhyme style, okay, he got a rhyme style. But he is white! He is white! If Eminem was just another ni–a like the rest of us, would he be top 5 on that list when a ni–a can rhyme just as good as him is 35?! They had records and all that.” said Melle Mel.

Following his comments, Fat Joe, 50 Cent, Kxng Crooked, Kevin Gates have all come to defense of Eminem by disagreeing Melle Mel. The latest celebrity to weigh in on the topic is Ice Cube’s son, O’Shea Jackson Jr., who portraited his father in Straight Outta Compton movie.

The Los Angeles, California-born actor and rapper responded one of the users on Twitter who shared Melle Mel’s quote. “Bro we gotta cut this s–t out like Eminem ain’t one of the baddest on the planet. How many white rappers haven’t even been able to sniff his impact or success. #Himinem.” – wrote O’Shea in reply. You can check the tweet below:

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