Eminem’s manager Paul Rosenberg sat down with Slim Shady for the part two of “Curtain Call 2” interview on Paul Pod podcast where the two talked about how Dr. Dre’s brain Aneurysm played a big role in reconciliation with Snoop Dogg, collaborating with late rapper Juice WRLD, how it frustrates him what people think about his rhymes and much more.
About Snoop Dogg beef
Me and Snoop had our little issue, when that thing happened with Dre, the brain aneurysm, we were like ‘bro this is stupid as hell to be feuding right now.’ I don’t remember if I called him or he called me but we talked it out and I think there was a miscommunication in regards to him being on my album Marshall Mathers LP2 on a track “B**ch Please II” and he wanted to do something with me again and he gave you [Paul Rosenberg] the idea and he said something like ‘let’s hear what the song sounds first and he took it the way that ‘I don’t f**k with him.’ And I explained to him like ‘bro Doggystyle changed my life.’
About Juice WRLD
We had been talking about Juice WRLD for a while. And we just wanted to do something with him. We liked his freestyles over my instrumentals. It was crazy. I had a different hook on “Godzilla” and never was really crazy about it. I had verses and that was the reason we asked him for the hook. He sent us two things that were great and the first one was that Monster hook. I was like ‘holy s**t.’
About Rap Critics
It’s frustrating when you do something technically and people who think they know what hip-hop is about start giving opinions on it. They don’t hear what the f**k you doing. If I rhyme entire f**king sentence, every syllable hit, they would literally think that at the end of it I was rhyming ‘back’ and ‘cat’ because they skipped over 30 other syllables. They don’t understand that there is art to that. Kool G Rap has done it so well, Big Daddy Kane, LL Cool J, there is an art to that. We [me and critics] are not listening with same ears.
Paul Rosenberg takes an in depth look at the hits, art and albums that make up the legendary musical library of Eminem as told through first-hand experiences by the participants and collaborators on these celebrated projects. It’s a 7-part series exclusively released in celebration for Curtain Call 2. For the sixth part, Paul brings out none other than Eminem for the interview which you can check out below.
The process of making Relapse
I remember when I first got sober all the s**t was out of my system. I remember just being really happy. Everything was f**king new to me again. It was the first album and the first time I had had fun recording in a long time. I started having fun with music again and I was re-learning how to rap. Took a long time for my brain to start working again…”Detroit Basketball” was the first thing I recorded and it was f**king weird because my brain was turning back on. I started going over the lines, thinking ‘wait, that’s not good.’ I don’t know which version was leaked but there were like twenty version of that s**t. For the Relapse album, I think “Must Be The Ganja” was the first song I recorded and made into the album. Dre was feeding me with beats and I think “My Mom” was second.
About “Beautiful”
Couple things come into play. One, I had just started watching bunch of serial killer documentaries and s**t and it started giving me ideas like I could if I tried to sound like a demented serial killer. ‘Beautiful’ came out earlier sessions when I was still f**ked up. It was probably only decent song I had made during that time. I didn’t want to put it on the album because it it didn’t fit the concept of everything else, accents and all that s**t.
His thoughts on Relapse album
I remember when we were in Hawaii, I was listening to some s**t from The Eminem Show. I remember some of my older s**t and going like ‘why don’t my s**t feel anything right now’ so when we did first recording session for Recovery I was in Hawaii with Dre. I don’t have problem with some of the rhymes and some of the verses as far as lyrically, it’s just accents. I felt like I sounded so demented in that s**t that I got cemented in that s**t. and I bent it back, b**ch and then I went to scratch itch. So listening to my older s**t I was like ‘I need to feel like this again’ and the first song that I did was ‘On Fire’
About scrapped Relapse 2 album
There are probably enough songs to make another Relapse album, not that hasn’t either leaked out or were used Relapse: Refill. There are lot of songs from Relapse that didn’t leak out but they are terrible songs. They didn’t even make into the album Relapse and if you know how I feel about Relapse album then that should say something. So there is no Relapse 2.
About Recovery album
At that time, I was looking at how Drake and Wayne changed the landscape. It pushed me and motivated me. Recovery was the first album with me back on a wordplay because I started getting away from Relapse. I was watching Wayne like ‘holly s**t wordplay is back’ and I was like ‘I can do that!’ I recorded songs for Recovery and I was done but then you [Paul Rosenberg] told me ‘I got one beat and chorus you need to hear.’ When I heard it, I got into a car and I wrote two verses on my way to home. And then I told you ‘Okay tough guy. I’m done with the record but now you need to put Rihanna on it.’ I remember we wanted to get her on any song. So there was actually an attempt to get her on something. It actually leaked, it was “Fly Away” song.
About “Rap God” song
I don’t remember exactly how it came about but I do remember that when I first recorded it, I was still playing CDs back then, I’m listening to it in the car and when it cuts off it says ‘six minutes’ and I was like ‘what the f**k that s**t’s exactly six minutes?! That’s crazy, so I want back and that’s were the intro comes from… For some reason, summa-lumma, dooma-lumma was stuck into my head and I just kept repeating the phrase. That rhymes with lots of s**t so I started rhyming. That part is kind of stunt in there. I remember when I wrote it I was thinking ‘when I go into the studio am I going to be able to say this s**t?’ Sometimes the s**t I write my mouth can’t say it.
Visiting Rick Rubin at his house
The first time I met Rick Rubin was with you. We went to his house and his house was still under construction. I went to use his bathroom and after I used bathroom, I gotta dry my hands and there was a paper towel in there, dried my hands but there was no garbage so I put the paper towel in toilet, hit flush and it started overflowing. [Laughs].
Then Eminem continues talking about Tinnitus, Hell: The Sequel and Revival. You can check the interview below:
